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作者: ROCKS    時間: 17-9-2008 22:57
標題: 打破Nibiru末日論 美國太空總署科學家David Morrison 公開否應Nibiru的存在
I am really sorry that these crazy Nibiru claims have upset you. Idon't want to keep answering these questions about Nibiru, but let mesay once more as clearly as I can, for you and the other questioners:Nibiru does not exist. NASA has never discovered or detected Nibiru oranything remotely like it. The handful of dwarf planets thatastronomers have discovered beyond Neptune are on stable orbits thatwill never come into the inner solar system, let alone threaten Earth.Nothing will happen in 2012. Nibiru is simply a fake, a hoax, theresult of a small religious cult that is unfortunately scaring lots ofpeople with totally false stories.David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist

January 31, 2008

我不想要繼續回答關於Nibiru的這些問題,而是讓我為您和其他發問者更加說一樣清楚,像我能, : Nibiru不存在。美國航空航天局遙遠地從未發現或檢測Nibiru或任何像。天文學家在海王星之外發現了的極少數矮小的行星在不会進入內在太陽系的穩定的軌道威脅地球。 什么都不會在2012年內發生。Nibiru簡單地是偽造品,騙局,不幸地驚嚇許多人以完全錯誤故事小宗教崇拜的結果。大衛Morrison
NAI前輩科學家


Your request for concrete proof from NASA that Nibiru does not existis illogical. The burden of proof should on those who make claims thatNibiru is real. They have no evidence whatever, and you should not be fooledby their unsupported claims.

提供證據的責任如果在提出要求的那些人Nibiru是真正的。 他們沒有證據什麼和您不應該支持和唬弄。


The burden of proof should on those who make claims thatNibiru is real. They have no evidence whatever, and you should not be fooledby their unsupported claims.

David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist

Nibiru不存在(由那或其他名字),并且任性的對象不進入內在太陽系。 因為它不存在,它沒有磁場。並且,沒有行星的對準線或太陽與…



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作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 18-9-2008 13:52
Scientists discover solar system's 'Planet X'
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  Computer simulations led scientists to believe that planet 'X' could be up-up to two-thirds the size of the Earth. Scientists at a Japanese university believe another planet - up to two-thirds the size of the Earth - is orbiting in the far reaches of our solar system.

Researchers at Kobe University in western Japan say theoretical calculations using computer simulations led them to conclude it was only a matter of time before the mysterious 'Planet X' was found.

"The possibility is high that a yet unknown, planet-class celestial body, measuring 30 percent to 70 percent of the Earth's mass, exists in the outer edges of the solar system," Kobe University said in a statement.

"If research is conducted on a wide scale, the planet is likely to be discovered in less than 10 years."

Pluto disqualified

The research, led by Kobe University professor Tadashi Mukai along with researcher Patryk Lykawka, will be published in the April issue of the US-based Astronomical Journal.

Their study comes two years after school textbooks had to be rewritten when Pluto was booted out of the list of planets.

Pluto was discovered by the American astronomer Clyde Tombaugh in 1930 in the so-called Kuiper belt, a chain of icy debris in the outer reaches of the solar system.

In 2006, nearly a decade after Tombaugh's death, the International Astronomical Union ruled that the celestial body was merely a dwarf planet.

Astronomers concluded that Pluto's oblong orbit overlapped with that of Neptune, excluding it from being a planet.

Elliptical solar orbit

Instead it defined the solar system as consisting solely of the classical set of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter,
Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

Planet X -- so called by scientists because it has yet to be found -- would have an elliptical solar orbit like Earth, the Kobe University team said, estimating its radius was 15 to 26 billion kilometres.

The team noted that more than 1,100 celestial bodies have been found in the outer reaches of the solar system since the mid-1990s.

Researchers have set up a theoretical model looking at how the remote area of solar system would have evolved over the past four billion years.

"In coming up with an explanation for the celestial bodies, we thought it would be most natural to assume the existence of a yet unknown planet," the university said in its statement.
Source: SBS/AFP


Humanity's Crossroads and Extraterrestrials: U.S. Professor Zecharia Sitchin's Planet X
by Al Smith, Retired Academic Instructor
";Planet X" Orbit graphic. Reference: Galaxymaine.com

What is Planet X (PX)? What proof is there that PX exists? What effect is PX having on the Earth? What may happen in the near future? I have been interested in paranormal phenomena, metaphysics, UFOs/aliens, the New World Order and related topics for many years. I discovered Planet X about ten years ago when I found Zechariah Sitchin's book The 12th Planet on a library bookshelf amongst other books about the paranormal. I'm not a history buff, which is why I didn't consider reading it before. I finally picked it up and read it from cover to cover. Sitchin's book piqued my interest in the subject. Subsequently, I read everything I could get my hands on about PX, including information on the Internet. I was recently interviewed on Internet talk radio about this topic and have another interview scheduled on Sept. 1st, on bbs.org, Odyssey, Mike Schultz, 8pm (PST). The topic of PX is censored in the mainstream media. Back in December, 1983, the Washington Post ran an article about the sighting of PX by infrared satellite near the orbit of Neptune. Astronomers noticed the orbits of Neptune and Pluto were being disturbed by an anomalous object. It was a flash in the pan. There has been no other reports in the mainstream media about PX, other than an occasional debunking of its existence. What is Planet X? It has been identified as a comet, a planet, and a starship. Immanuel Velikovsky wrote about cyclical catastrophic events which coincide with the approach of Planet X into our solar system every 3600 years, although he didn't identify PX as the cause of the great upheavals in Earth in Upheaval, Worlds in Collision.
Planet X relative to the other ten planets in our planet Earth's solar system. Credit: Credit-fenice.info

Velikovsky provides ample geological evidence for the sudden devastation of Earth, humans and animals, approximately 3600 years ago (1628 B.C). Other geologists have corroborated his findings since he wrote those books in the 1950's. According to my research, PX, the size of Jupiter, is presently in our solar system and is heading towards Earth. It is in a retrograde orbit. Its overwhelming magnetic properties and gravitational field has catastrophic effects on nearby celestial bodies. A source on the Internet states PX will be visible in the Southern Hemisphere in June, 2009. Now it can be seen by satellite or observatory telescopes. As it nears the Earth, its mass, magnetic and gravitational effects will be apparent in severe climate change, frequent and higher magnitude earthquakes and volcanic activity, and other geological disturbances. The projected time of a PX close encounter is the end of 2011 - 2012. I am convinced that PX is a starship inhabited by a hostile race of ETs called the Nefilim; a race of giants that once inhabited Earth during the Sumerian civilization and for thousands of years prior to that era. Make Comments about this article in The Canadian Blog.
作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 18-9-2008 13:53
至少比所謂的 "光子帶" 更有根據
可以用 "Planet X"的觀念去理解,並不一定要將 Niburu 的名字套在它身上。

在日本便有個權威的研究機構,由專業的天文角度從事分析。

今天剛剛在 "量子科學雜誌" (日版中譯,圖書館中有得睇) 中介紹過,入面的科學家說有證據顯示該行星可能存在,將來 5~8 (難道是 2012) 年很有機會發現?
作者: ROCKS    時間: 18-9-2008 17:02
For cometary impacts you can read Victor Clube and Bill Napier’s “Cosmic Winter” and “Cosmic Serpent” or my own book “Man and Impact in the Americas”.

As near as is known, nothing is going to hit in 2012, despite the efforts of some con-men to play on many peoples’ fears and ignorance of the Maya calendar to sell books.

While possible impacts in 2022 (by fragments of SW3) and 2036 (asteroid 2004 MN4) are of concern, it is not likely that either China or Russia will allow anything to hit, regardless of what NASA does.
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作者: ROCKS    時間: 18-9-2008 17:04
美國太空總署定係你個日本大學可信呢 =]

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作者: 月祭_+    時間: 18-9-2008 18:11
原帖由 ROCKS 於 18-9-2008 17:04 發表
美國太空總署定係你個日本大學可信呢 =]


客觀黎講 唔1定美國太空總署o岩晒
幾專業都有出錯機會
作者: 迅雷先鋒    時間: 19-9-2008 19:10
正常黎講
政府係唔會為人民帶黎恐慌,並會掩飾一切未影響民眾但會造成恐慌的事實
所以呢班人係度講緊大話安撫民眾都唔定
作者: ken456654    時間: 19-9-2008 21:15
回樓上,冇錯,政府會盡一切能力掩飾災難
作者: sad258258    時間: 19-9-2008 21:33
唉...睇唔過眼
佢話滅亡你又信到十足...
佢話出錯你地又話吹出黎呃人...
你地講哂...
多謝#6的人兄的一句:
[客觀黎講 唔1定美國太空總署o岩晒
幾專業都有出錯機會]
佢地都會出錯...承認了你地又唔信
to #6的人兄的:
美國太空總署的確會出錯...日本大學同美國太空總署的分別就係出錯的機率....所以你果句都係講哂...

我的立場係
驚又死,唔驚又死
一係瘋狂制造核武同佢死過
一係等死
一係平平安安咁過埋果個爛鬼預言日,人人開開心心咁安居樂業
要點過就在於自己的想法..自己決定

要個潛水神人打咁多字...煩死人了...
作者: ken456654    時間: 20-9-2008 10:59
這版是世界之迷,未被證實的事都是迷,所以世界末日未被證實,只是討論,呵呵.
作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 21-9-2008 07:30
未日對於你們來說是什麼?是放棄生活的一種藉口嗎?如果因為未日會令人想放棄生活的話,那些人其實早就放棄了生活!
作者: ROCKS    時間: 21-9-2008 10:34
原帖由 滅絕仔 於 21-9-2008 07:30 發表
未日對於你們來說是什麼?是放棄生活的一種藉口嗎?如果因為未日會令人想放棄生活的話,那些人其實早就放棄了生活!


你有絕症的話 你會正常生活嗎?? 真好笑
作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 21-9-2008 10:45
有絕症的人,不會放棄生活!反而在有限時間做最多的東西,積極人生....你是一個無知的人!
作者: sad258258    時間: 21-9-2008 11:03
你有絕症的話....

你一直同其他有絕症的人話: 你地就快死,後悔吧/等死吧

有用麼?

令人恐慌去減少自己的恐懼....

你真有趣
作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 21-9-2008 11:06
ROCKS就是一個這樣的人...可能最想未日的就是他!
作者: sad258258    時間: 21-9-2008 11:19
補充

你認為有正常人類會希望沒日?
別作出無謂的推測和誹謗...
作者: 咒術師    時間: 21-9-2008 13:15
原帖由 滅絕仔 於 21-9-2008 03:06 發表
ROCKS就是一個這樣的人...可能最想未日的就是他!

別煩了
兩者只係屬於不同的處世方法
沒什麼問題
你也未免想得太偏激
最好別將自己的想法強加於別人身上
作者: 魂魄    時間: 21-9-2008 16:15
標題: 回復 17# 的帖子
但係有絕症就一要唔可以正常生活??佢既想法唔係一樣太偏激同放左係其他人身上咩

回rocks:
雜誌一定唔可信??大家咪一樣係科學家。咁係咪所有政府部門講既野一定係真??一定冇錯??

佢話係假設有好多因素唔一定係佢講真 政府都有講大話
作者: 61087815    時間: 22-9-2008 20:36
別再說

入來這板的人大多人都是吃腦/用腦的人

我不希望這個板帶給人的印象是一堆只會依信科學家的一堆無聊人在罵戰

回ROCKS:
比如說:即使問題只有一個,但解決問題的科學家有二百個
當中包括最頂尖的科學研究人員
那就會出現二百個的意見.理論.
所以大家不用過於執著一個科學家所說的一堆理論
當然,科學家所說的任何一個研究成果,理論都不能夠輕視
我可以對大家說.
即使2012年沒有什麼什麼行星.Nibiru
人類亦都會遲早滅亡
污濁的空氣,千年細菌,甚至全球性核戰
都有機會令到人類滅亡

[ 本帖最後由 61087815 於 22-9-2008 20:39 編輯 ]
作者: sad258258    時間: 22-9-2008 20:53
回樓上

污濁的空氣,千年細菌,甚至全球性核戰

你確定這些因素會令地球在2012年毀滅?
作者: 61087815    時間: 23-9-2008 16:31
原帖由 sad258258 於 22-9-2008 20:53 發表
回樓上

污濁的空氣,千年細菌,甚至全球性核戰

你確定這些因素會令地球在2012年毀滅?

基本上我沒有一段文字暗喻過2012年真的地球會毀滅
請留意關鍵字-遲早

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作者: ken456654    時間: 23-9-2008 18:35
呵呵,如果發生全球性核戰,人類不用半年就滅亡了,人類的破壞力裹比大自然高
作者: sad258258    時間: 23-9-2008 20:08
基本上我沒有一段文字暗喻過2012年真的地球會毀滅
請留意關鍵字-遲早

好吧,我認錯了

還有...你這句不錯;P
作者: 520520zoo    時間: 24-9-2008 08:19
原帖由 月祭_+ 於 18-9-2008 18:11 發表


客觀黎講 唔1定美國太空總署o岩晒
幾專業都有出錯機會
'
容觀黎講,話有Planet X班友仔都會出錯
作者: ROCKS    時間: 24-9-2008 10:49
原帖由 滅絕仔 於 21-9-2008 11:06 發表
ROCKS就是一個這樣的人...可能最想未日的就是他!


什麼是未日...抱歉我中文差
不是太清楚 我估是大約末日吧

對 , 如果2012年會末日的話都不錯

這世界是不公平的


可惜 2012沒有這個機會

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作者: 恨╮豪    時間: 12-10-2008 00:37
今年天災勁左咁多
仲陸續有黎,,人類自己造成既
nibiru唔洗黎,,人類都遲早玩完
唔洗驚定先,,2012年果陣大家留意箸d動物咪得,,
當有一日動物大遷徙既時候你先驚都未遲
不過冇得避=]
作者: 97182367    時間: 12-10-2008 01:58
希望2012唔係真家啦[[m30]]
作者: 星野零    時間: 13-10-2008 19:11
Planet X的概念...當然你可以這樣假設...但實際上是怎樣..大家都無從考究(雖然沒看完那堆

英文...但個人認為這也是建基在一些理論之上的東東)...個人認為....人總會為未知的未來而

擔憂...所以有未日流言或這種發言也很正常....其實人就是自私...總害怕自己死...而忘記了

有多少生物因我們而死(食那些就算啦...這是生物的基本)...為裝飾...殺害大象...殘害動植

物...至於多天災...我看過一些書本說..The Earth的自然系統到某一段時間會進行自然調

整...氣候會較為反常,天災也會較多...這是有周期性的(當時也只是書上所說的)...大家還是

隨遇而安好了- -
作者: ken456654    時間: 14-10-2008 17:47
沒錯,人類的天性是自私的,任何事也從自身出發,根本沒想過其他的事.

當人類都一直存在,大自然就會一直被破壞,其他物種也會一直被殺害.

到了現在,人類存在了差不多10000年,雖然一直相安無事,但我覺得,大自然既然有能力讓我們存活了10000年,她也有能力令我們消失,或許會有一天,她不能夠再容忍我們......(有點神化了==)
作者: ~alan    時間: 23-10-2008 17:16
但係Nibiru佢既野中左啵
作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 30-10-2008 09:59
Nibiru始終都是在未知的東西中.....出現或不出現都不要太大期望!
作者: yyck532    時間: 30-10-2008 20:46
美國不承認..不代表不存在.....!!!
試問...美國有幾多大殺傷力的武器...我地係知....?
佢地最好的都收收埋埋....何況Nibiru?
作者: s011049    時間: 21-11-2008 14:37
你們認為美國會確實說Nibiru會在2012年尾或2013年頭會接近地球嗎!?

認為現今地球上最強國家會說 , Nibiru2012會接近地球,但我們美國不能做到什麼
作者: ~恐懼~    時間: 25-11-2008 23:49
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作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 26-11-2008 18:45
錯了。。。因為美國是以前說有。。之後改口說沒有。。。日本的量子雜誌在半年前說過有,也有一大堆證據。。。。真真假假。。。什麼也不要太大希望吧!
作者: kwong421    時間: 28-11-2008 18:40
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作者: 惡搞小惡魔    時間: 29-11-2008 12:54
曾經~地球都經過幾次未日~~如果呢個係真既話~只能夠接受~期求未日之後~地球的生態會再度重生~

也許未日會對地球帶來一時負面影響~但都不要緊~反正地球早就被人類凌虐~

對地球也許是一件好事也說不定~
作者: 滅絕仔    時間: 30-11-2008 20:51
末日絕對是好事...因為始終人類都是違反了法則!




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